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03 June 2008 @ 09:09 am
The Relationship Between Geas, the Sword of Akasha, and More [Discussion]  
So, I woke up late tonight/early this morning with this thought that's been running around in my head for a little while. Basically, I find it fascinating that our beloved series centers on such an interesting topic as this "geass" and yet we still know so little about it. Naturally, being the analytical (read: nerdy) person that I am, I decided to do a little research on the Geass, its true power, and the mystery behind it. Since I haven't seen it discussed much here, I thought I'd see what you all think.

I apologize in advance for any rambly-ness. I started this at about 4am this morning~!

First of all, it's probably important to start with what exactly the Geass is, so let's start with the Canon facts that we know:

[1] It is bestowed to people in the form of a contract. (1)
  • CC gives the Geass to both Lelouch and Mao.
  • VV gives the Geass to the Emperor, Charles, and possibly Rolo. (1)
    [2] The Geass manifests in different forms for different people.
    [3] The power of the Geass grows with use. Those unable to control it are eventually consumed by it. (2)
    [4] Those that bestow the power of the Geass cannot be affected by it. (2)
    [5] It is possible to fight the affects of the Geass, or break free of its power. (3)
    [6] The power of the Geass is somehow connected to the exsistance of humankind, and it may be used to destroy just about anything. (4)
    [7] There have been 4 known Geass users.
  • Lelouch vi Brittania (with the power to give commands)
  • Mao (presumably dead, had the power to read minds)
  • Charles di Brittania (with the power to change people's memories)
  • Rolo Haliburtun/Lamperouge (with the power to affect a person's subjective experience of time.)
    [8] The power of Geass manifests in a person's eye(s).
    [9] Geass makes a person different than other people, seperating them from others. (5)

    Now, this is what we know so far. If there's anything I missed, please let me know. ♥ I haven't listed the individual stipulations and idiosyncrasies for each Geass user, 'cause then we'd be here forever...

    Aside from what we know, there's also a few things that are suggested in the anime:
    [1] There is a connection between Geass and the following:
  • A collection of people, seemingly made up of different races, who all bear the same tattoo that CC has.
  • The planet Jupiter. (6)
  • Those who can grant the power of Geass can speak with others with the same power, or those believed dead. (7)
  • The Geass is connected with something called the "Sword of Akasha", which is said to be a weapon to "destroy the gods." (8)
  • There may be a possible correlation between the myth of the Ragnorak and the "Sword of Akasha." (9)
    [2] Those that can grant the power of Geass also seem to have other powers, including the ability to affect a person's psyche. (10)
    [3] Artifacts and archeological sites related to the Geass are distributed throughout the world, some of them containing traps known as "thought traps" (11)
    [4] Although "geass" is the official term for the power, the basis for where this word comes from is not given to us.
  • Lelouch is the first to call his power the "geass" (1) and presumably this is where the term comes from.
  • CC never tells Lelouch that the power is called "geass." Instead, she calls it both the "Power of the King" and her "gift of power."(2) It is only after Lelouch calls the power "geass" that CC also adopts the term.
  • Mao calls the power "geass" presumably after reading Lelouch's mind. (3)
  • Suzaku learns about Lelouch's power seemingly from VV, and also calls it "geass" but we don't know why. (4)
  • Rolo also calls his power "geass," again seemingly without reason.

    Aside from these details, (and probably a few others I might've missed), we are only able to speculate on the nature of the Geass. Of course, it's been brought up several times that the term "geass" is a Japanese deriviation of geis or geas. Below is the information I dug up on what a "geis" is:

    According to timelessmyths.com:
    The word geis means "bond", a prohibition, taboo or injunction. The geis is tied with one's fate or destiny. The violation of one's geis, will lead to some misfortunes, and in most cases, to one's own death. They were something like a curse or a blessing. The Ulster Cycle stressed the importance of not breaking his or her geis, yet it seemed to be unavoidable.

    Cu Chulainn had a geis where he was not allowed to eat meat of a hound (because he was named as a hound), but the hero was tricked into breaking his geis.

    In the tale of the Destruction of Da Derga's Hostel, the high king, Conaire Mor, has an interesting number of geis impose upon him. Conaire was warned of not killing any bird, because his father (Danann) could shift-shape into a bird. One by one, Conaire broke each geis. When he broke one geis, he set the chain reaction where he will break all of them in rapid succession.

    However, there are occasion when avoiding violation of the geis, does not necessarily means that diaster will be avoided. Avoid breaking a geis can sometimes work against the person. There are several famous tales, where the heroes met their death had avoided violation of their geis.

    I[t is] not really certain, how a person find out what his or her own geis. Just about anyone can impose a geis upon another. Sometimes a druid imposed a geis to a person, other times, by king, hero, and in several of the stories, they were imposed by the person from the Otherworld (a god or goddess - one of Tuatha Dé Danann). In fact the geis was probably linked to the Otherworld.

    In the Welsh myths, there was something like the geis in Math Son of Mathonwy (Mabinogion), where Aranrhod imposed several curses (blessings) on her own son, Lleu. But unlike the Irish geis, these could be overcome. Gwydyon, brother of Aranrhod, helped her son overcome these curses, by duping Aranrhod.

    Pwyll had to accept a couple of conditions set by Arawn, which including taking his place as Lord of Annwn, by being disguised as Arawn, and fighting Arawn's enemy, Havgan.

    According to Wikipedia:
    In Irish mythology and folklore, a geis (/ˈɡɛʃ/, plural geasa) is an idiosyncratic taboo, whether of obligation or prohibition, similar to being under a vow or spell.

    A geis can be compared with a curse or, paradoxically, a gift. If someone under a geis violates the associated taboo, the infractor will suffer dishonour or even death. On the other hand, the observing of one's geasa is believed to bring power and good fortune. Often it is women who place geasa upon men. In some cases the woman turns out to be goddess or other sovereignty figure.

    The geis is often a key device in hero tales, such as that of Cúchulainn in Irish mythology. Traditionally, the doom of the hero comes about due to their violation of their geis, either by accident, or by having multiple geasa and then being placed in a position where they have no option but to violate one geis in order to maintain another. [...]

    A beneficial geis might involve a prophecy that a person would die in a particular way; the particulars of their death in the vision might be so bizarre that the person could then avoid their fate for many years.

    So, now we have an idea of where Geass comes from, possibly, but was does all that have to do with stuff like Jupiter and the "Sword of Akasha"?

    Well, according to Wikipedia (again), Akasha is the Sanskrit form of the word aether. This substance is known as many things, including 'the fifth element' or simply an 'idea.'

    Akasha (or Akash, Ākāśa, आकाश) is the Sanskrit word meaning "aether" in both its elemental and mythological senses. In Hinduism, Akasha means the basis and essence of all things. The source of everything that exists. One of the Panchamahabhuta, or "five great elements"; its main characteristic is Shabda (sound). In Hindi the meaning of Akash is sky.

    The word aether (αἰθήρ) in Homeric Greek means "pure, fresh air" or "clear sky", imagined in Greek mythology to be the pure essence where the gods lived and which they breathed, analogous to the aer breathed by mortals (also personified as a deity, Aether, the son of Erebus and Nyx). It corresponds to the concept of akasha in Hindu philosophy and is linked to Brihaspati (or the planet Jupiter) and the center direction of the compass. It is related to αἴθω "to incinerate", also intransitive "to burn, to shine" (related is the name Aithiopes (Ethiopians)), meaning "people with a burnt (black) visage".

    -Bold tags added by me.

    So, it's clear what the connection between Jupiter and the "Sword of Akasha" is, but how does this connect to Geis? When we look up what "Brihaspati" (or Jupiter) is on Wikipedia, we're told that Brihaspati is a god who represents the balance of past karma, religion, philosophy, knowledge and issues relating to offspring. He is concerned with education, teaching and the dispensation of knowledge. It's also important to note that those born under the influence of Jupiter are often fat, but their prosperity and empire are known to increase.

    This doesn't make much sense if we interpret it that Charles and VV are setting out to destroy the very god that would actually support him. Brihaspati seems to be the type of god that Charles would worship and look to for wisdom, since he embodies so much that is part of Charles' life (including issues relating to offspring) This, however, is my speculation. Perhaps the desire stems more from VV's side, as a desire to erase past sins and past karma. By destroying Brihaspati, it would seem that Chaos would reign, and this is actually what Lelouch wishes to accomplish.

    When looking at what Brihaspati relates to, again, we also see that he rules over the sign of Saggitarius, which is actually Lelouch's sign.

    Perhaps what Charles and VV are setting out to do is bring down Lelouch? Perhaps, somehow, they knew ahead of time what Lelouch's goals and desires were, and in reaction decided to form a contract? If we say that Brihaspati is related to Lelouch, then it would make sense that Charles and VV are attempting to "destroy" him and his related god.

    When we delve further into this thread of Hindu mythology and astrology, we learn that Brihaspati has an arch-nemesis known as Shukracharya (or Venus). Shukracharya is described as white and middle aged. He holds the Sanjivani mantra, which is a hymn said to revive the dead. He also has a daughter named Devyani who was rejected by the son of Brihaspati, but then later married Yayati, who founds to Kuru dynasty.

    This reminds me a lot of Charles (and possibly VV as well). Throwing in the Sanjivani mantra, which he might've used with Clovis (remember when he says that he had spoken with Clovis and that Clovis was at peace on a beach?) or Shukracharya's daughter Devyani (who seems a lot like Euphie, to me, especially when you consider that she and her husband start the Kurugi dynasty...), and I'd say we might have a correlation.

    But that still doesn't explain the connection between the Sword of Akasha and Geis. Then we throw Marianne into the mix. Remember her? It's hard not to, since she's Lelouch's mother. It seems that the more we find out about her, the more we learn that she might've had a hand in her own death. A martyr, possibly? Perhaps her death insured, somehow, that Lelouch would eventually meet CC? This, to me, seems likely when we consider that CC seems to be in contact with the supposedly dead Marianne.

    This brings me back to CC, who is a fascinating character. One of the interesting things about her is the symbol that she bears on her forehead and also on her breast. This symbol also shows up on the ruins at Kaminejima. To me, this symbol is very similar to the astrological sign for Neptune combined with the symbol for Uranus. This seems to be yet another reference to astrology.

    Neptune, like Jupiter and all the other planets of the Solar System, is named after a god of the Roman pantheon. Historically, it is believed that Galileo was the first to discover Neptune, but because he thought it was a fixed star in conjunction with Jupiter, he is not credited with the discovery.

    Astrologically, Neptune is related to idealism and compassion, illusion, confusion and deception; with religions, spirituality and mysticism, the mass media, creativity in art and music, drugs, extreme sensitivity, fantasy and imagination, psychic phenomena and altered mental states. These descriptions seem to coincide a lot with the symptoms and affects of each Geis. According to Wikipedia, modern astrologers consider Neptune the ruler of Pisces, but prior to the discovery of Neptune, Jupiter the one considered as the ruler of Pisces. Even some modern astrologers consider Jupiter a co-ruler of Pisces. Some astrologers do not believe that Neptune rules any particular sign, even though they may use the planet in interpretation.

    Uranus, much like Neptune and Jupiter, is a gas planet and in astrology represents the principles of genius, individuality, new and unconventional ideas, discoveries, electricity, inventions, and the beginnings of the industrial revolution. Uranus also governs societies, clubs and any group dedicated to humanitarian or progressive ideals.

    This might mean that while we have yet to see Neptune and Uranus in the anime, they might have a relationship with CC, Jupiter, the cult of Geass, and the Sword of Akasha. Personally, I think that there might be a big correlation between them all that have yet to be explained.

    But, what does all this tl;dr boil down to? Basically, we have two people, each with a Geis. With Charles, we know his contract with VV is to destroy 'the gods' using the "Sword of Akasha." Meanwhile, Lelouch has a contract with CC, but we don't know what that one entails. CC has yet to name her greatest desire. But somehow, it possibly has something to do with Marianne and possibly the planets Jupiter, Neptune, and Uranus.

    With all this information in hand, what do you guys think? Personally, my head is swimming, but can you sort through it and come up with a possible answer?

    (1) Season 1, Episodes 1, 14; Season 2, Episodes 5, Code Geass: Lost Colors
    (2)Season 1, Episode 15
    (3)Season 1, Episode 22; Season 2, Episode 1 and 2
    (4)Newtype USA, September 2006 edition.
    (5) Season 1, Episode 1 "If you enter this contract, you will live as a human, but also as one completely different. Different rules, different time, different life... The power of the king will make you lonely indeed. If you are prepared for that, then..."
    (6) Season 1, Episode 1
    (7) Season 1, Episode 19, 23
    (8) Season 2, Episode 6
    (9) Season 1, Episode 1
    (10) Season 1, Episode 11
    (11) Season 1, Episodes 19, 24
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    spleener on June 3rd, 2008 05:53 pm (UTC)
    I think the other common thread of the powers Geass gives that should be noted is that they're all powers given over the minds of others- reading them(Mao), 'freezing' them(Rolo), controlling them(Lulu), rewriting the contents of them(Charlie.) Nobody has a Geass that affects the physical world or anything like that.
    spleener on June 3rd, 2008 05:56 pm (UTC)
    Thinking about it, this is also the limits of the powers of CC and presumably VV, excluding their immortality- the worst either of them can apparently do to someone is make them see their worst nightmares/memories.

    And CC was capable of essentially canceling out the effects of Charlie's Geass. Whether or not Lulu's can be removed by her or VV the same way I'm not sure, though (you'd think VV would have done it to Suzaku if he could, but you never know.)
    lulu_qualitylulu_quality on June 3rd, 2008 08:37 pm (UTC)
    Very interesting. A few comments:

    [5] It is possible to fight the affects of the Geass, or break free of its power. (3)

    I wouldn't say it's possible to break free of its power since we've never actually seen someone do that. The instance in which we've seen the power actually be fought against was when it was completely contradictory to that person's nature (i.e. Euphie). For instance, the soldiers in the first episodes of both seasons recognize that there is the possibility that they'll die in war and thus are prepared for it. Also, to fight against the effects, you need a strong will. Euphie was a resilient person so it makes sense that she would challenge the effects of the geass, but even she failed. Lelouch failed as well when fighting against the effects of his father's geass even though it was basically the highest form of torture for him. The Emperor erased his raison d'être , everything he stands for, and there was no observed resistance on the part of Lelouch.

    Also, in terms of V.V and Charles' relationship, I personally don't actually believe they're brothers (although there is always that possibility), but the "nii-san" moment reflected the stark contrast between their ages or even showed that Charles was really young when he received his geass--young enough to consider someone like V.V. to be his older brother. In addition, in one of the R2 Room segments that comes with the e-magazines, Rolo's VA, Mizushima Takahiro, commented on the episode including the V.V. line. He was surprised that the Emperor said "nii-san" and was wondering what it meant, seemingly implying that there's more to the line than that. Of course, the VAs don't know everything, but the fact he found it strange is intriguing.

    Kururugi is an uncommon name to have, I think. I wonder/hope if there's some underlying meaning to it in relation to the Kuru Kingdom. I don't think Neptune or Uranus will play a part though, but I really wonder what's up with all the feathers. Angels? Winged beings?
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    ☇ ⁕ ☆ ᴀᴘᴘᴙιᴠᴏιsᴇ ∽ нᴀʏʟᴇʏ ∿ 。: [CG] Rolo -- Prettiest Little Villianlavaliere on June 3rd, 2008 10:27 pm (UTC)
    My first reaction: LOL!

    Second reaction: =\ Clamp only does the character designs. The theme of feathers runs through out the series, and not just in the ending sequence of Season 2.
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    ☇ ⁕ ☆ ᴀᴘᴘᴙιᴠᴏιsᴇ ∽ нᴀʏʟᴇʏ ∿ 。: [CG] C.C. -- Zero Masklavaliere on June 3rd, 2008 10:49 pm (UTC)
    From the Wikipedia article: During these early planning stages, Kawaguchi contacted the noted mangaka group Clamp, which was the first time Clamp had been requested to design the characters of an anime series. Clamp signed onto the project early during these development stages, and provided numerous ideas, which helped develop the series' setting and characters.

    Basically, Clamp's storylines and often used themes might have been had some influence on the writers of Geass, but ultimately Clamp didn't have a whole lot of say in the plot. Mostly just the design of the characters.
    ☇ ⁕ ☆ ᴀᴘᴘᴙιᴠᴏιsᴇ ∽ нᴀʏʟᴇʏ ∿ 。: [CG] Lelouch -- TrueFax!lavaliere on June 3rd, 2008 10:26 pm (UTC)
    I wouldn't say it's possible to break free of its power since we've never actually seen someone do that.

    I probably should have been more clear, but what I meant was that it was possible, but only with the help of a Geass giver. This is what Lelouch does, escaping/overcoming the Geass put on him by Charles, with the aid of CC.

    I think it's also important to mention that if you notice in episode 5 of Season 2, there a moment when Lelouch walks past the wall on the roof that features the carvings made by the girl he Geass'ed in Season 1. The carvings end, with the last trailing off unfinished. Since Milly explains that the entire of the student body, aside from the Student Council (Minus Nunnally and Nina) left for the Britannian main land, its suggesting that the girl had been unable to finish her task as she had been told. It was argued that the command might have worn off with Lelouch's Geass being suppressed, but this was proved wrong in episode 8 when Suzaku is taken over by the command to "Live" that Lelouch gave in him Season 1, and mentions in an internal monologue that he had been under that Geass-command since Lelouch gave it. This leaves thee possible answers to the riddle of why Carve-tan could not complete her assigned task. Thr first being that she was pulled forcibly away from finishing the task, and even now is fighting to continue marking the wall on the school roof. Or, the girl is no longer living and therefore unable to finish the command. Finally, it might've been that the girl managed to overcome the power of the Geass command. While I find the last unlikely, it can't be ruled out completely, I think.

    As for the relationship between VV and Charles, I'm inclined to agree that they're not blood reletives, but brothers more in "spirt," liked together by their contract.

    Moving on to the subject of the feathers, I have to admit I had forgotten about that. But looking back at Season 1, Episode 1, there did seem to be a theme of feathers running through out. Especially in regards to Euphemia. This could be because Euphemia is named after a Christian martyr, (and likewise was a martyr as well, albeit indirectly). Martyrs are often lifted to sainthood, and the feathers could be a nod to that. Otherwise, the feathers could be related to the aether/akasha theme, especially since aether represents the clear sky/pure air of the gods.
    lulu_qualitylulu_quality on June 3rd, 2008 10:34 pm (UTC)
    Actually, it was revealed in one of the e-magazines about what happened to Carve-tan: she was taken back to the Britannia mainland, but exhibiting strange actions (i.e. attempting to go back to Area 11 to carve a wall) in front of doctors, she was basically put under house arrest. Every night, due to differences in time zones, she tries to get up and go back, on the outside, appearing as if she's sleep-walking. Basically, Lelouch ruined her life :/

    Who knows about the feathers, but one thing I'm interested in was how that one feather floating past that...diamond thing in the sky was used as a scene transition. I can't remember for the life of me which episode of R2 it was in (maybe 6?), but the placement of the scene probably gives hints to the underlying meaning.
    lulu_qualitylulu_quality on June 3rd, 2008 10:39 pm (UTC)
    Random addition to statement above. Since Carve-tan's geass still remains in effect without showing any signs of weakening, what we can surmise from this is 1) Being a great distance from the geass user does not alter the effect or strength of the geass and 2) Most likely, the geass lasts until the victim dies.
    ☇ ⁕ ☆ ᴀᴘᴘᴙιᴠᴏιsᴇ ∽ нᴀʏʟᴇʏ ∿ 。: [CG] Lelouch -- Mine For The Takinglavaliere on June 3rd, 2008 10:42 pm (UTC)
    Agreed, which makes me wonder about the thugs Lelouch bumped into in Season 2, Episode 7. The ones that he commanded to do ridiculous things such as jog in place or howl like a dog. Undoubtedly, they too will be forced to complete the commands until they die (and will probably be put in a mental hospital or something before then).

    And given that Lelouch maintained the false memories given to him by the Emperor for an entire year, in Japan, away from the Emperor, this was another example of that summation.
    ☇ ⁕ ☆ ᴀᴘᴘᴙιᴠᴏιsᴇ ∽ нᴀʏʟᴇʏ ∿ 。: [CG] Rolo -- Shoot You Downlavaliere on June 3rd, 2008 10:39 pm (UTC)
    Aha! So the answer that riddle is solved~ (I was not aware of that information being given out) Poor Carve-tan.

    I'd have to go through the episodes again to see what exactly your talking about before I could give any guesses.
    cagalli_kasshu: pic#75291223cagalli_kasshu on June 3rd, 2008 09:55 pm (UTC)
    I was also thinking about the geas, but mostly because i'm a D&D player and geas is a lesser spell that allows you to manipulate another creature, human or not. And if that appears on D&D, it MUST be a mythological base about it. I was talking long with my best friend, that's also our dungeon master, about that (he's also watching Geass) and we found the same things that you wrote at first, but the others were completely new to me.

    Thanks, now i'm completely abstent minded and searching more on the web about geas... and i'm working at my office, LOL xD
    Somebody call for an exterminator?zerorevenge on June 25th, 2008 03:41 pm (UTC)
    Oh Geas (and Lesser Geas), in all my time as DM, I never used it. Until I watched Geass...
    that crazy jew: blind twlight | Lelouchfujiappletan on June 3rd, 2008 10:49 pm (UTC)
    [4] Those that bestow the power of the Geass cannot be affected by it. (2)

    I've always wondered if this is just for the person they have a contract with, like for example could the Emperor Geass C.C.? Because her contract is with Lelouch and not the Emperor, or does this inability to be affected by the Geass pass for all... givers of the Geass and not just to ones they've had a contract with? Personally I think they can't be controled by any Geass at all but still, it'd be interesting if this wasn't the case... maybe or if this was to even be addressed.

    Also, very interesting info you've collected. <3
    ☇ ⁕ ☆ ᴀᴘᴘᴙιᴠᴏιsᴇ ∽ нᴀʏʟᴇʏ ∿ 。: [CG] C.C. -- Secret To Your Disasterlavaliere on June 3rd, 2008 10:52 pm (UTC)
    I'm inclined to think that they Geass-givers are protected somehow from the powers of the Geass because they are both the source of the power and cannot use it themselves. Instead, they have their own powers, such as CC's ability to force shock images into a person's mind. But I do agree that it would be interested to see this addressed. If it turns out that Lelouch can Geass someone like VV, it would seem a bit of a cop out, but quite the twist nonetheless.

    And thanks! ♥ Late night/Early morning musings FTW.
    桐生ユリナdefade on June 4th, 2008 10:21 am (UTC)
    I don't remember where I read or heard this - but apparently Geass is a power that affects the soul, and CC claims that she doesn't have a soul, which is why Geass can't be used on her.

    Except I really can't remember where I heard that from...>_>
    lulu_qualitylulu_quality on June 5th, 2008 03:53 am (UTC)
    I think that was hinted at in the possibly canon/possibly not novels and mentioned on Gamefaqs by Celiss, as far as I recall.
    Izzuhonou_no_izumi on June 4th, 2008 12:30 am (UTC)
    On the part of the name Geass... I thought Lelouch said it earlier that he heard that term being used to address the power when C.C gave him the power that caused him to see all those images. So technically he wasn't the one that coined the term Geass. The fact that C.C never call it Geass prior to Lelouch saying it out loud probably because she wasn't bothered to tell him.
    ☇ ⁕ ☆ ᴀᴘᴘᴙιᴠᴏιsᴇ ∽ нᴀʏʟᴇʏ ∿ 。: [CG] Rolo -- Shoot You Downlavaliere on June 4th, 2008 12:44 am (UTC)
    From Season 1, Episode 5:

    Lelouch: "I used the Geass to command her to make a mark on that wall every day."
    CC: "The Geass?"
    Lelouch: "My power. Isn't that what you called it when I contracted with you?"

    However, if you listen carefully to what is said during the contract scene in Episode 1, the word "geass" is never spoken. Instead, the Japanese word for "contract" is said (I'd repeat it here if I wasn't afraid of misspelling it). It seems that Lelouch pulls the term from somewhere we aren't told about. But, of course, that doesn't mean he coined the term, because it's obvious from the research in my post above that the term has existed for some time in Irish/Gaelic mythology. "Geass" is simply the Japanese pronuciation of the word. Lelouch, being a very intelligent individual, probably picked up the word from a book or research somewhere and felt it best suited the situation between him and CC, and thus dubbed it as such.
    lulu_qualitylulu_quality on June 4th, 2008 02:56 am (UTC)
    I don't think so. The point is that Lelouch said he heard it during the contract. If he coined the name based on past literary experiences, he would have probably said so. I believe the emphasis is that he wasn't the one who originally said it. C.C.'s response to this proclamation was rather interesting too: She seems sort of oddly amused by this. Maybe the Emperor (or Marianne even) coined the name originally.

    On the topic of the contract, I wonder if the Ragnarok scene was a part of Lelouch's or C.C.'s memories or even a telepathic view into what was happening with the Emperor at the moment (a sort of "back at the ranch" scene if you will).
    darksage29: asplunddarksage29 on June 4th, 2008 03:18 pm (UTC)
    we fans think too much